wethepeople Swamp Master vs. wethepeople Envy Carbonic LHD vs. wethepeople Swamp Master - Direct Comparison
3 BMX Bikes compared side by side: wethepeople Swamp Master, wethepeople Envy Carbonic LHD and wethepeople Swamp Master. The lightest and at the same time the cheapest is wethepeople Envy Carbonic LHD (10.81 kg, 1512.56 EUR). All of them meet this category’s quality markers.
Key Differences
Why buy wethepeople "Swamp Master" BMX Bike - Matt Black?
- ✓ Meets every quality marker: High end, Sealed bearing, Mid BB, Pivotal, 4130 CrMo, 4130 CrMo
Why buy wethepeople "Envy Carbonic LHD" BMX Bike - Matte Black - LHD?
- ✓ Meets every quality marker: High end, Sealed bearing, Mid BB, Pivotal, Aluminium, 4130 CrMo, 4130 CrMo
- ✓ Lightest (10.81 kg)
- ✓ Best price (1512.56 EUR)
- ✓ Clear pick: meets the quality markers and is the lightest
- ✓ Full CrMo/4130
- ✓ Pro quality
Why buy wethepeople "Swamp Master" BMX Bike - Matt Grey?
- ✓ Meets every quality marker: High end, Sealed bearing, Mid BB, Pivotal, 4130 CrMo, 4130 CrMo
Conclusion
- wethepeople "Swamp Master" BMX Bike - Matt Black excels in: quality markers and bearing quality
- wethepeople "Envy Carbonic LHD" BMX Bike - Matte Black - LHD excels in: price, weight, quality markers and material quality
- wethepeople "Swamp Master" BMX Bike - Matt Grey excels in: quality markers
Technical Specifications
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| Product | wethepeople "Swamp Master" BMX Bike - Matt Black | wethepeople "Envy Carbonic LHD" BMX Bike - Matte Black - LHD | wethepeople "Swamp Master" BMX Bike - Matt Grey |
| Price |
1,747.86 EUR Taxfree excl. shipping |
1,512.56 EUR 🏆 Taxfree excl. shipping |
1,747.86 EUR Taxfree excl. shipping |
| Manufacturer | wethepeople | wethepeople | wethepeople |
| Weight Scale: light to heavy (BMX Bikes category) | 14.50 kg | 10.81 kg 🏆 | 14.50 kg |
| Quality markers | 5/7 Quality | 6/7 🏆 Quality | 5/7 Quality |
| Class | High end | High end | High end |
| Fork | Hi-Ten fork legs | Hi-Ten fork legs | Hi-Ten fork legs |
| Headset | ✓ Sealed bearing | ✓ Sealed bearing | ✓ Sealed bearing |
| Bottom bracket | ✓ Mid BB | ✓ Mid BB | ✓ Mid BB |
| Seat system | ✓ Pivotal | ✓ Pivotal | ✓ Pivotal |
| Sprocket | not stated | ✓ Aluminium | not stated |
| Frame | ✓ 4130 CrMo | ✓ 4130 CrMo | ✓ 4130 CrMo |
| Handlebar | ✓ 4130 CrMo | ✓ 4130 CrMo | ✓ 4130 CrMo |
| Specifications | |||
| Wheel Size | 20" | 20" | 20" |
| BMX Frame | wethepeople "Swamp Master" BMX frame, Sanko 4130 CrMo, Rockshox RL Shock-152X31 | wethepeople "Envy XLT", 4130 CrMo, hydroformed gussets, lasercut 6.0mm, 120mm head tube | wethepeople "Swamp Master" BMX frame, Sanko 4130 CrMo, Rockshox RL Shock-152X31 |
| Top Tube (TT) | 21.5" | 20.5", 21.0" | 21.5" |
| Chain Stay (CS) | 14.1" - 14.8" | 12.5" (12.5"-13.35") | 14.1" - 14.8" |
| Head Tube (HA) | 71° | 75.25° | 71° |
| Seattube (SA) | 70° | 71.5° | 70° |
| BB-Height (BB) | 12.15" | 11.7" | 12.15" |
| Standover (SO) | 9.5" | 8.75" | 9.5" |
| BMX Fork | Manitou "Machete J-UNIT Expert" fork, custom tuned, 100mm travel, thru-axle | eclat "Storm XLT", 1-1/8", 100% Sanko 4130 CrMo, heat treated, CNC machined 1-piece steerer tube, aluminum topbolt, 24mm offset | Manitou "Machete J-UNIT Expert" fork, custom tuned, 100mm travel, thru-axle |
| BMX Bar | wethepeople "Swamp Master", 4130 CrMo, 2-piece, 22.2mm tube diameter | wethepeople "Envy XLT", 100% 4130 Sanko CrMo, 2-piece, 25.4mm tube diameter | wethepeople "Swamp Master", 4130 CrMo, 2-piece, 22.2mm tube diameter |
| Height | 8" | 9.4" | 8" |
| Width | 29.15" | 29.8" | 29.15" |
| Backsweep | 11" | 10.5" | 11" |
| Upsweep | 2.5° | 2.5° | 2.5° |
| Clamping Diameter | 22.2mm | 25.4mm | 22.2mm |
| Grips | Salt "EX" Grips, 154mm length | eclat "Shogun" Grips, eclat "Tech-Bolt" barends | Salt "EX" Grips, 154mm length |
| Stem | eclat "Burns", topload, CNC machined, 51mm Offset, 22.2mm handlebar mount diameter | eclat "Dune", topload, CNC machined, 50mm Offset, 25.4mm handlebar mount diameter | eclat "Burns", topload, CNC machined, 51mm Offset, 22.2mm handlebar mount diameter |
| Headset | wethepeople "Compact", integrated headset, sealed bearing | wethepeople "Compact", integrated headset, sealed bearing | wethepeople "Compact", integrated headset, sealed bearing |
| Gyro | - | - | - |
| Gyro compatible | No | Yes | No |
| Brake Lever | BENGAL "ARES 3" disc brake levers, hinged, 2-finger | eclat "Sniper", aluminum, hinged, 2-finger | BENGAL "ARES 3" disc brake levers, hinged, 2-finger |
| Brake | BENGAL "ARES 3" hydraulic disc brakes, 160mm rotors | eclat "Talon" U-brake, aluminum, with bridge cable | BENGAL "ARES 3" hydraulic disc brakes, 160mm rotors |
| Seat | wethepeople "Envy", Pivotal, slim-padded | eclat "Bios", Pivotal, fat-padded | wethepeople "Envy", Pivotal, slim-padded |
| Seat Post | Wethepeople "Team" pivotal seat post, 200mm long, 6061-T6 alloy, 25.4mm | eclat "Torch", Pivotal, aluminum, 230mm, 25.4mm | Wethepeople "Team" pivotal seat post, 200mm long, 6061-T6 alloy, 25.4mm |
| Seat Clamp | Integrated | Integrated | Integrated |
| Pedals | wethepeople "Logic" pedals, nylon/fiberglass | eclat "Contra", plastic | wethepeople "Logic" pedals, nylon/fiberglass |
| Chain | eclat "Diesel" | wethepeople "Demand", K1 type | eclat "Diesel" |
| Sprocket | wethepeople "Patrol" sprocket, cnc, 6061-T6 alloy, 28T | eclat "Abyss", 6061-T6 aluminum, CNC machined, 25T | wethepeople "Patrol" sprocket, cnc, 6061-T6 alloy, 28T |
| Crank | wethepeople "Logic", 4130 CrMo, 3-piece, 48 Spline 22mm spindle, 175mm | eclat "Tibia", LHD, 4130 CrMo, 2.5-piece, 48 Spline 22mm spindle, 170mm | wethepeople "Logic", 4130 CrMo, 3-piece, 48 Spline 22mm spindle, 175mm |
| Bottom Bracket | wethepeople "Compact", Mid BB, 22mm, sealed bearing | eclat "CNC", Mid BB, 22mm, sealed bearing | wethepeople "Compact", Mid BB, 22mm, sealed bearing |
| Hub (front) | eclat "Exile" disc front hub, BOOST 120mm, fully sealed, 15mm thru axle, 36H | eclat "Seismic", sealed bearing, female axle with 10mm (3/8") CrMo bolts, 36H, incl. 2 x eclat Nylon Hubguard | eclat "Exile" disc front hub, BOOST 120mm, fully sealed, 15mm thru axle, 36H |
| Hub (rear) | eclat "Exile" disc cassette hub, fully sealed, 3/8" female bolts, 36H, 120 POE, 9T | eclat "Seismic", cassette hub, LHD, sealed bearing, female CrMo axle with 12mm CrMo bolts (for 14mm dropouts), 36H, incl. 2 x eclat Nylon Hubguard, 9T LHD | eclat "Exile" disc cassette hub, fully sealed, 3/8" female bolts, 36H, 120 POE, 9T |
| Rim (front) | eclat "Bondi", aluminum, double wall, welded, 36H | eclat "Carbonic", "Toryca" carbon, 37mm wide, double wall, 36H | eclat "Bondi", aluminum, double wall, welded, 36H |
| Rim (rear) | eclat "Bondi", aluminum, double wall, welded, 36H | eclat "Carbonic", "Toryca" carbon, 37mm wide, double wall, 36H | eclat "Bondi", aluminum, double wall, welded, 36H |
| Tire (front) | Kenda "Kaos" BMX tire, 20" x 2.60" | eclat "Mirage" BMX tire, 20" x 2.45" | Kenda "Kaos" BMX tire, 20" x 2.60" |
| Tire (rear) | Kenda "Kaos" BMX tire, 20" x 2.60" | eclat "Mirage" BMX tire, 20" x 2.45" | Kenda "Kaos" BMX tire, 20" x 2.60" |
| Pegs | - | - | - |
What makes a good BMX bike?
Beginner, middle class and high end differ mainly in price and equipment - a good beginner bike is not a bad bike, it is one that saves in the right places. The bearings decide the most: a sealed-bearing headset and a Mid-BB bottom bracket run smoother, last longer and need no maintenance - and both are common on good beginner bikes today. A fork made entirely from 4130 CrMo instead of Hi-Ten legs survives grinds and hard landings far longer. A Pivotal seat and an aluminium sprocket save weight and can be upgraded individually later on. More on this in the category FAQ
The Brands
About wethepeople: Wethepeople (WTP) is one of the world's most renowned rider-owned BMX brands from Cologne, Germany, whose origins date back to the 1990s. Driven by... View all wethepeople products
Lightest and heaviest: BMX Bikes
Weights range from 10.40 kg to 14.50 kg - 11.83 kg on average, 11.90 kg in the middle of the field. The chart shows all 207 comparable products in this category; the markers are the ones being compared.
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10.40 kg14.50 kg
- 1 wethepeople Swamp Master
- 2 wethepeople Envy Carbonic LHD
- 3 wethepeople Swamp Master
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Cheapest and most expensive: BMX Bikes
Prices range from 258.78 EUR to 1680.63 EUR - 530.69 EUR on average, 487.35 EUR in the middle of the field. The chart shows all 207 comparable products in this category; the markers are the ones being compared.
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258.78 EUR1680.63 EUR
- 1 wethepeople Swamp Master
- 2 wethepeople Envy Carbonic LHD
- 3 wethepeople Swamp Master
