Tall Order 360 vs. Haro Bikes Baseline vs. Fiction BMX Creature - Direct Comparison
3 Frames compared side by side: Tall Order 360, Haro Bikes Baseline and Fiction BMX Creature. The lightest and at the same time the cheapest is Haro Bikes Baseline (2.10 kg, 168.03 EUR). All of them meet this category’s quality standard.
Key Differences
Why buy Tall Order "360" 2021 BMX Frame?
- ✓ Meets 3 of 4 quality markers: 4130 CrMo, investment cast, integrated chain tensioner
Why buy Haro Bikes "Baseline" BMX Frame?
- ✓ Meets 2 of 4 quality markers: 4130 CrMo, integrated chain tensioner
- ✓ Lightest (2.10 kg)
- ✓ Best price (168.03 EUR)
Why buy Fiction BMX "Creature" BMX Frame?
- ✓ Meets 2 of 4 quality markers: 4130 CrMo, heat-treated
Conclusion
- Tall Order "360" 2021 BMX Frame excels in: quality markers
- Haro Bikes "Baseline" BMX Frame excels in: price, weight and quality markers
- Fiction BMX "Creature" BMX Frame excels in: quality markers
Technical Specifications
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| Product | Tall Order "360" 2021 BMX Frame | Haro Bikes "Baseline" BMX Frame | Fiction BMX "Creature" BMX Frame |
| Price |
235.25 EUR Taxfree excl. shipping |
168.03 EUR 🏆 Taxfree excl. shipping |
218.45 EUR Taxfree excl. shipping |
| Manufacturer | Tall Order | Haro Bikes | Fiction BMX |
| Weight Scale: light to heavy (Frames category) | 2.30 kg | 2.10 kg 🏆 | 2.30 kg |
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| Quality markers | 3/4 🏆 Quality | 2/4 Quality | 2/4 Quality |
| Material | ✓ 4130 CrMo | ✓ 4130 CrMo | ✓ 4130 CrMo |
| Heat-treated | not stated | not stated | ✓ yes |
| Dropouts | ✓ investment cast 🏆 | welded | welded |
| Chain tensioner | ✓ integrated 🏆 | ✓ integrated 🏆 | none |
| Specifications | |||
| Wheel Size | 20" | 20" | 20" |
| Material | 100% 4130 CrMo, top tube and down tube gussets, butted tubes, tapered chainstays, integrated headset |
4130 CrMo top tube and chainstays top tube and down tube gussets butted tubes tapered chainstays integrated |
Heat treated 4130 CrMo, tapered chainstays, integrated headset |
| Top Tube Length (TT) | 21.0" | 20.5", 20.75" | - |
| Chainstay Length (CS) | 13" (33cm) | 13" (33cm) | - |
| Head Tube Angle (HA) | 75° | 75° | 75° |
| Seat Tube Angle (SA) | 71° | 71° | 71° |
| Bottom Bracket Height | 11.6" (29.46cm) | 11.5" (29.21cm) | - |
| Standover Height (SO) | 8" (20.32cm) | 8.6" (21.84cm) | 9.5" (24.13cm) |
| Seat Clamp | integrated | integrated | integrated investment cast |
| Seat Post Diameter | 25.4mm | 25.4mm | 25.4mm |
| Bottom Bracket | Mid BB | Mid BB | Mid BB |
| Dropouts | Investment cast, 6mm thick, 14mm slots | 6mm thick, 14mm slots | 5mm thick, 14mm slots |
| Chain Tensioners | integrated | integrated | without |
| Brake Type | U-Brake | U-Brake | - |
| Brakemounts | with (screwable, M6) | with (screwable, M8) | with (screwable, M6) |
| Brakemounts included with delivery | Yes | No | - |
| Gyro compatible | Yes | Yes | - |
| Model Year | 2021 | 2023 | - |
| Head Tube Length | - | 4.6" (11.68cm) | - |
| Features | - | wide rear end for fat 2.4" tires | - |
| Top Tube (TT) | - | - | 20.75", 21.0" |
| Chain Stay (CS) | - | - | 13.4" (34.04cm) |
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What makes a good BMX frame?
A good BMX frame is made from heat-treated 4130 CrMo - the steel allows thinner walls at the same strength and so saves weight. The dropouts decide the rest: investment-cast or forged ends survive grinds and hard landings far longer than laser-cut or stamped plate. Butted tubes (multi-butted rather than single) put the material exactly where the forces act. High-end frames for BMX park and BMX flatland are made from high-grade titanium, offering the best weight-to-strength ratio of all. More on this in the category FAQ
The Brands
About Tall Order: Founded in 2016 by UK BMX legend Sebastian Keep, Tall Order is a rider-owned brand focused on transition riding. The brand is dedicated to creating... View all Tall Order products
About Haro Bikes: Haro Bikes is BMX Freestyle. Founded in 1978 by icon Bob Haro in California, the brand not only significantly co-shaped the sport itself but also... View all Haro Bikes products
About Fiction BMX: Fiction BMX is an American BMX brand and the sister/subsidiary company of Stolen BMX, founded to offer reliable and affordable BMX parts and... View all Fiction BMX products
kunstform Picks from the Frames category
Our history with BMX parts did not start when we opened kunstform in 2003: some of the team have been riding longer than the shop has existed, and most of us are still on a bike today. So we know pretty well which parts we can trust. A kunstform Pick therefore only goes to what we would bolt onto our own bikes: parts where the quality and the value are right, and that you will enjoy for a long time.
Lightest and heaviest: Frames
Weights range from 1.14 kg to 2.80 kg - 2.27 kg on average, 2.28 kg in the middle of the field. The chart shows all 157 comparable products in this category; the markers are the ones being compared.
- 1 Tall Order 360
- 2 Haro Bikes Baseline
- 3 Fiction BMX Creature
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Cheapest and most expensive: Frames
Prices range from 168.03 EUR to 1512.56 EUR - 390.94 EUR on average, 361.30 EUR in the middle of the field. The chart shows all 157 comparable products in this category; the markers are the ones being compared.
- 1 Tall Order 360
- 2 Haro Bikes Baseline
- 3 Fiction BMX Creature
